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FOTCAC Will Ask Taxpayers For $1.7M For High School Athletic Complex

Group wants town to borrow money for scaled down version of Tewksbury High playing field project.

 

Time is running out in the fourth quarter and the Friends Of Tewksbury Community Athletic Complex (FOTCAC) are in a two-minute drill in their year-long quest to provide the new Tewksbury High School with a state-of-the-art athletic complex in time for the 2013 fall season.

FOTCAC last summer announced plans to raise $2.2 million to help the town upgrade its construction plans for the new high school complex to include a multi-purpose synthetic turf playing field surrounded by an eight lane running track, complete with expanded viewing stands, lights, a scoreboard and a press box.

But eight months of fund-raising has netted the group just $14,600 in ready cash, and the committee has decided to go hat-in-hand to the voters and ask Tewksbury’s taxpayers to pony up $1.7 million for a scaled down version of the project.

“Given the fact that we need to raise nearly $2 million we’re a long way from getting home,“ FOTCAC spokesman Paul Hibner told the Tewksbury School Committee at its Wednesday night meeting. “At this point, with the few funds that we have, there is no way we will accomplish our goal and hit the target date that is projected for the fall of 2013. So this is something we would like to put forward (at town meeting).”

FOTCAC can have an article added to the annual May town meeting warrant simply by submitting a petition, signed by 10 registered, voters before the board of selectmen closes the warrant in early spring. Either the school committee or the board of selectmen could vote to place the article on the town meeting warrant at FOTCAC’s request, as well.

“There’s plenty of time to get this in front of the voters (in May), and we think the residents of Tewksbury should have the opportunity to decide (whether the project dies or moves forward),” Hibner said.

The proposal that Hibner hopes to see go before town meeting would not include lighting for night games, Hibner said. Some Tewksbury residents who live in the neighborhoods surrounding the high school campus have voiced concerns about potential noise and traffic problems if the proposed complex were to host night games, particularly high school football games.

“In response to the neighbors’ concerns, we’ve decided to remove the lights from the proposal,” Hibner said.

Hibner expressed disappointment that his group’s fundraising efforts have met with relatively little success. In eight months, FOTCAC has received just $4,000 in corporate donations and $10,000 in private donations, according to Hibner.

“It’s disappointing, because we’ve got a lot of verbal support,” Hibner said. “I don’t know, maybe it’s a sign of the (economic) times. People tell you they think it’s a great idea and they’ll send you a check on Monday, but the check never comes.”

FOTCAC has had some success at raising funds through its “Affinity Program” with TD Bank. Through this program, TD Bank has agreed to contribute a percentage of its earnings from funds deposited with the bank that are linked to the project. Hibner forecasted that the TD Bank program will generate approximately $90,000 for the project over the next 10 years.

Hibner said the group will be applying for a $500,000 Parks Grant through the Commonwealth of Massachusetts this spring, as well.

But grants and fundraising are extremely unlikely to generate the money that would be needed to expand the current new high school building plans before it is time to break ground for the grass field that was approved when town meeting voted to build the new high school last February.

Hibner denied that this was a last gasp attempt to keep the project alive.

“It’s more of an attempt to keep (the project) on track and have a field that’s ready for the kids to play on in the fall of 2013,” Hibner said. “They’re going to start tearing down the (existing) high school this summer and when that happens they need to start construction on the new (athletic) facility, and we just clearly don’t have the means to make that happen now.”

Hibner received support from several school committee members after his presentation.

“I think it’s important that the townspeople have a say in what’s being done,” school committee member Dennis Francis said. “I really applaud the efforts that you are trying to do because I really think it’s a project down the road that will benefit not just the schools, but it will benefit everybody in this community.”

School board member Brian Dick, who also sits on the FOTCAC committee, expressed frustration that the group’s fundraising efforts have not been more fruitful.

“We haven’t had a lot of bites,” Dick said. “But as frustrating as that is, there’s still a lot of enthusiasm within the group that I see. ...There’s a lot of people who would like something like this for the high school. I think (a town meeting vote) is very important.”

School committee member Joe Russell, who has been an advocate for the project since it’s initial stages, suggested that FOTCAC may find some support from taxpayers, given the fact that the new high school building project has come in well under budget so far.

“I’m glad that you’re looking at an article,” Russell told Hibner. “The building committee was given the task of building a new high school, the (taxpayers) gave them a certain amount of money that they’re willing to pay for it, the bids came in a lot lower, the high school is on track, everything is working out well. There’s monies that the town was willing to pay for an A-plus facility and I think if we don’t put in a field that can be used all three seasons…that we’re doing the town a disservice if we don’t bring this to them and give them a chance to decide whether to invest in it or not.

“I think once people see how valuable that field is at the high school…they’ll realize that it was a great investment,” Russell added.

Russell also asked school committee chairperson Krissy Polimeno to bring the matter back before the committee for on vote on whether or not to have it added to the town meeting warrant.

“I would like to, as a committee, try and do something, because it think it’s something that the town needs and I think the opportunity is now,” Russell said.

Related Topics: Friends of Tewksbury Community Athletics Complex, Paul Hibner, new tewksbury high school, and tewksbury school committee

Gordon Pickguard

6:09 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

How about getting some really good teachers and more AP sections. Why don't we have a vote for those?

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Jake P

6:51 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

After recieving a 22% increase in my taxes this year, I say the buck has to stop here. Why do you people think the checks never arrive? People just don't have the extra money. My vote is NO NO NO

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BM

8:48 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

You get my vote too ...... NO !!!!

Choose to be nameless

7:23 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Try and make this once affordable town a bit more affordable. Let's revisit water/sewer rates, a working rec center, smart boards in all the classes, maybe help out teachers and make smaller classes or add aides so the struggling students dont feel so lost. Sports are essential. I get it, but I feel students who are not 100% athletic are lost. I understand the complex can generate revenue but we are losing site of struggling families.

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Jake P

7:27 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Also Bill Gilman, in the interests of truth, can you verify that the town now needs to pay an extra $300,000 - $500,000 to the construction company and construction control people for overtime costs so this project can come in on time? I thought I might have read this somewhere

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Bill Gilman

7:37 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Jake, I'm checking on this. The short answer is yes. But I need to qualify that. Throwing a number out (you and I read the same piece) and not explaining the reasons why doesnt serve a useful purpose. So yes, you will see something on Patch soon about how much, why and where that money is coming from.

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malcolm nichols

7:51 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

As to the discussion above on Winter or Weather Condition costs, this last year has had greatly reduced lost time from the average. There should be a reduced construction schedule and a reduced cost via contract change order.

As to the UPGRADED athletic complex, NO!
A dollar saved is a dollar earned.

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Dave G.

8:33 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

We need the South St. fire station open before we need this. Use our money wisely please. What will it cost to maintain that complex? Has anyone given an amout to that?

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BM

8:59 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

No , I'm sure they did not . These morons think once it is built , that the end of that ..... wrong !!! It will cost more money to maintain it which the town does not have .

BM

8:39 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Are these hypocrites who want us to foot the bill for a new sports complex going to pay my tax bill when it arrives every quarter ? I don't think so !!!!! No way in hell am I voting for funds for a new sports complex !!!! Enough is Enough !!! When is this town and officials running it ( into the ground ) going to wake up ? I am not voting for another thing in this town . They need to get their priorities in order and a new complex is not a priority !!!!!

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Jon Pratt

8:46 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Agreed Its a low priority at this point - they can't even fund the extra expenses to open the new school??

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BM

8:46 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

How about the town addressing all the vacant commercial properties that little Rte . 38 ? Maybe something could be reasonably done to entice businesses to set up shop in town !! That to me is more of a priority !!!

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BM

8:47 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Sorry , meant that litter Rte . 38

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Melissa Gleaton

8:50 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

The athletic plans included in the overall project have already been approved by the taxpayers. Period. People aren't willing to volunteer charitable donations to change those plans so that is the answer. No one in this town should be forced to pay for these new plans, however scaled down they are. THERE IS NO MORE MONEY! And this should NEVER have been a priority with the way the school has been performing.

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BM

8:55 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Just because Mr . Russell claims that the High School is being completed " under budget " , doesn't mean we should go spend happy and make the bottom line come in over budget ! His logic and thinking is ridiculous !!! These people are so irresponsible with our money that it makes me sick !!!!!!

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Dan

9:40 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

How much MORE money do these people want??? Every time you turn around they want more!!! Having a hard time with taxes now!!! New library, new police station, new high school...Give it a rest!!!! Maybe we should not be getting 2 more cops and a fireman...Save the money and use it to fix the older school that is in disrepair, or the 4th of July program...Just like the Goverment, and the State, they just keep spending, with Our money...Hope everyone gets out when this comes up for a vote...

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Christian Panasuk

10:09 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

I'm going to say this again -- there are lots of other things I want for this town with 1.7 million dollars before "sports" comes onto the list. Is all I need: ten signatures to get a warrant article in front of the selectman to have it put on the town meeting agenda for a yes or no vote? Well then, let me get my list ready.

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Angela Callahan

10:16 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

The Town does not need a new sports complex There are plenty of fields in the Town and as many who use them it is still a small number of the town. The school was necessary for the education and an assit to the Town. But as we know in the future there will be cuts in the maintance budget and it will go in disrepair as everything in this Town. DPW can not do work because there is little money for stock to do the work. Same in the School and Town Buildings. So no new field.

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Alex Ro

11:18 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Well said BM!!
Whose idea was this?? This is plain old nuts, I bet that person has a child into sports. There is so much like prev posters have stated in the town that should come first. The fire station is my #1 thought. Safety comes before sports!!!! Also why is it sports sports sports in this town? What about the school with no librarian. What about the children who dont have art in in school each year?? Stop focussing on sports. And the rec department that just sits there...more waste of town money. I bet we are paying for the heat now on it..what a waste, close it down for the winter. Use those fields. All we see in this town is spend spend spend and taxes and sewer rates going up. Guess all these people for this must have very nice salaries.
And this overtime I havent heard of this before, they must be well ahead of schedule with not much bad weather this winter, I dont understand that .
And the DPW I dont understand why I see the water truck driving around constantly on Sundays, perhaps they are missing overtime from not much snow removal so finding another way to fill their pockets.

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BM

1:27 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Well said Alex !!! This town scares me to death how it spends money with little regard to the people paying for all this stuff . Here's a priority . How about finding some funding to remove that ridiculous cell tower on South Street ? Would love to know who on the town board approved that in the first place ! This town and it's officials need to wake up and take a good look around as to what reality is like on " Main Street " !!!!

Joe Casparius

12:14 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

I second this opinion.
As to the UPGRADED athletic complex, NO!

You are forcing people to move out of town that no longer have kids in schools with the raising of taxes every year for more of these types of services. Even people that do have kids will no longer be able to afford to live here if this continues.

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Rick Spencer

12:52 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Just a couple minor points of clarification here:
First, the original plans for the new high school call for natural grass playing fields to be constructed on the site where the current high school building sits, once it is razed. If you recall, they built the new building on top of the old track and athletic fields, which had been used for everything from track meets to field hockey games to phys ed classes for decades.
Second, the ongoing maintenance costs for an artificial turf field are projected to be lower than the cost of maintaining the new grass fields they are planning to build. Grass fields must be fertilized, watered and mowed, and none of that is free.
Artificial turf fields are comparably maintenance free, and they can also generate rental revenues because they can be used for many more hours than grass fields can be used, without damaging them.
Because they can be used so much, many towns are able to rent their synthetic turf fields to outside groups, thereby generating revenue which helps offset the initial cost.
I'm not saying you should support this, just sayin' you might want to stay tuned to the issue and find out exactly how much (or little) this would cost in the long run.

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BM

1:35 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Mr. Spencer , just to make my clarification . I have two kids who play town sports and STILL We don't want a new sports complex !!!! These are dire times for most in this town and to even have this discussion about a complex is absolutely absurd !!!!

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malcolm nichols

3:33 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

If the Upgraded Complex is going to Save money then why ask for the $1.7mm in the first place, As I pointed our last year if you want "Friday Night Lights" move to Texas.
There is no chance that this will save.

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Rick Spencer

4:09 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

At the risk of sounding condescending, let me explain my post in a way you guys might understand:
If you go to the local convenience store and buy a six-pack of Budweiser it costs you $6.00 plus 30 cents in deposits or $6.30 = $1.05 per can.
If you drive to New Hampshire and buy a 30-pack of Bud for $17.99 (no deposit) and spend $4 on gas to get there and back you've spent $21.99 for 30 cans which equals 73 cents per can.
You spent almost four times the money, but what was the better deal?
Maybe our town is in the fiscal mess it's in because we haven't looked at the bigger picture often enough. The sewer project is a great example of that. We should try to avoid spending $1.05 on things we could get for 73 cents if we planned better.
All I'm saying is get the facts and do the math before you go all Wilford Brimley on us, crossing your arms, stamping your feet and yelling "No, No, No!"

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malcolm nichols

4:36 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Your post was self explanatory and needed no "condescending" clarification. I'm sorry you may not be so good at cost benefit analysis. If you feel you can benefit by making the investment yourself go right ahead, you can probably work a deal with the town to share in the profit. I would prefer to investment differently.

jj

1:26 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

How many times have we said "No" we don't have the funds for this, that or the other things you have thrown at us??? You people have to start listening to us. If you can't hear us, or can't understand what we are trying to get thru to your thick skulls, than step aside and let someone who understands what "NO" means run this God forsaken town. If you keep on borrowing, the people are going to revolt because they can't pay there tax's anymore. Do you understand that??? My wife and I are on a fixed income and can't afford the last load of crap you threw at us..By the way, there were 21 reply's to this article All "NO" "NO" "NO"
good luck and good night.

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BM

1:41 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Ever hear of " Living within your means " ? So obvious this town doesn't !!!

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Jessica Sampson

3:50 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

No no no! If the new high school is coming in under budget that is great. What about using the money to make sure the school has funding for years to come? I do not think a new building alone will improve MCAS scores. What about all the other under performing schools in town? The elementary schools are falling apart, emitting radon, lacking services, space, healthy lunches. We do not need state of the art athletic complexes, we need education. Sports are a benefit not a necessity.

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Kylie Sedgwick

5:23 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

As a three sport, student athlete at TMHS (soccer, indoor track, and tennis), I implore the taxpayers of Tewksbury to see the high schoolers' side of the argument. The new sports complex will be great for students, boosting attendance at athletic events. The athletes at TMHS make up a great percentage of the school and they provide the morale and enthusiasm behind the scenes.
Speaking from experience, our sport teams are excellent at making the best out of the worst facilities. Our indoor track team runs in the hallways for practice. An eight-lane outdoor track would help the indoor/outdoor program and make large, revenue-generating meets possible. Not to mention the appeal of a turf field for football, lacrosse, soccer, and field hockey, without the upkeep of a grass field.
As for the tennis courts (they are included but not mentioned in this article), the convenience of the courts would be doing the girls' tennis team a huge favor, and it might open up the possibility of eventually forming a boys' team also. Currently to get to practice every day, my teammates and I take our backpacks, tennis bags, and racquets onto a bus to the Wynn, where we change and then walk to the courts at Livingston. These courts are fine for now, but the quality is greatly deteriorating due to poor original construction. Essentially, five courts are best for a match. We have three. Sometimes we play matches until it's too dark to see the ball.
So please, see this from another perspective.

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Alex Ro

8:46 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Instead of spending 1.7 million why not fix the courts. There are lights there too. What is the park for anyhow? Will that just not be used anymore once the dream courts are in.

denise

5:32 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

well said Jessica!
The elementary schools are a mess...

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Jake P

5:36 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Kylie,
I understand why you would want it but here is my take. Why don't you go out tomorrow and buy a new Mercedes convertible? Simply because you cannot afford it at the present time. Hopefully sometime in the future you will be able to afford what you want. Right now your money has to be spent on priorities, as well as ours. Hope you understand our point of view

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Jon Pratt

6:02 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

http://beverlysportspark.org/Beverly_Sports_Park/Home.html

This committee was a smoke screen from the beginning raising 2m in 6 months Oh ya
How about hitting up the state and the CPA for funding - self funding means what it says.
I'll go along with .5M if your gang comes up will the rest

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Just a Mom

6:05 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

A field is going to be built no matter what, so why build something subpar when we have the opportunity to build something that is almost maintenance free and gives us the opportunity to rent it out and make money. By the way, I heard lights were cut from the plans - so Friday night lights will not be an issue. AND, I will not have any more children in the school system when this is completed, my children will all be in College. I just think if we're building it we should do it right from the get go

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Jon Pratt

6:11 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

School under budget means the taxpayer will have to pay less in taxes for the school not that it can spend more to make some elses dream come true. By the way the schools will be looking at 50M to replace 3 of the 4 elementary schools within the next five years.

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Friend of Ferncroft

7:00 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Justamom, do you know what the life expectancy of the Artificial Turf is and how much maintenance there is for this type of surface?. The life expectancy is 7-9 years if it is maintained. Who in this town is going to maintain it? The DPW doesn't have the budget or equipment! We can't even get a decent coat of paint on our current schools. When the surface wears out we, as tax payers, will be forced to pay the fee for the replacement. Ask Mr Spencer the cost of the installation for the initial surface. Multiply it by 1.5 for removal and replacement, not including an increase in materials and labor!
This group was asked openly in their "neighborhood" meeting if they would ask the town to contribute any funds. The answer was "If we come close to raising the funds we may ask the town for assistance to close the gap" I truely hope that no one in the room was blind to the fact, rasing 2.2 million in 6 months was not going to happen. That is why the question was raised. Here we are now, no closer to 2.2 million and we are hitting the town for money, "just" 1.7 million. (We cut out the lights due to the concerns of the abutters) Well I am an abutter and you weren't concerned then and you're not now!
Finish the school! Save the money and pay some of the bills that the town has incured during periods of mismanagement. Open the fire station that we are still paying for, which is vacant 80% of the time.

If you want a field to rent out, go buy a piece of property and have at it!!

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Alex Ro

8:45 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

I agree with you.
There will still be costs associated with this. I dont believe this will be free and easy to maintain. Who is going to clean up and who is going to pay for the custodian to do this. Who is going to pay the light bill. Oh wait I know, raise taxes again why dont ya. You know like the sewer we were told it would only be xxx and now we are all paying triple water bills.

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BM

11:38 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

You have hit the nail right on the head ! Enough is Enough in this town !!!

Friend of Ferncroft

7:11 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Anyone want to carpool to to NH to get a 30 pack of Bud. I don't have enough money for gas since I spent my last 20 weeks pay on my water bill and property taxes. Plus I won't have to recycle the cans, since there's no deposit there!!

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Alex Ro

8:48 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Cant someone on here that has a convertible drive us, they seem to be able to afford all.

eldee

8:15 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

The only way to stop this is to show up at TM.

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meow

8:24 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Let's see, our mtge payment has gone up 80- a month to cover the latest tax increase, our excise tax is 140.- for the "privilege " of driving on these potholed roads, our water bill will skyrocket because there is now a drought ..... Not enough snow to or rain to support us....
Oh wait!!!! We still have to pay the balance due on the sewer pipe running in front of our house ( whether we hook up or not )
We're being nickled and dimed to death...new police station, new library, new high school, and now ? A top of the line sports center???
There won't be anyone living in this town, just a lot of empty houses ........ Where will it end?
You can't get blood from the proverbial stone.....so stop squeezing us

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BM

11:42 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012

Apparently Mr. Hibner and his cohorts have the money to pay for this !!!! Let him and his group pony up if they are so well off !!!! What hypocrites !!!!

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billvill

6:36 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

For Rick Spencer:

If it is fiscally such a good deal, the FOTCAC should have no problem convincing a bank to loan them the $$, no? If the money to maintain the field (as currently planned) has already been earmarked, and the cost to maintain such a proposed complex is so much less, you've got your monthly payment right there. What, you say...we don't want a monthly payment?? Well, neither do we. Our tax burden is high enough, and I hate Budweiser.

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Rick Spencer

10:40 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Well, billvill, at least you're starting to think about solutions, which is encouraging to see.
Unfortunately, there isn't a bank on the planet that would lend a loosely organized thid party such as FOTCAC that kind of money to build something on land they don't own. There would be no way to assign collateral
But the landowner could qualify to borrow the money if the bank thought the improvements to the property would save the landowner enough in operating costs, and generate enough new revenue to cover the montly loan payment.
Get it?
Also, please understand that I am not taking a position one way or the other on this. All I'm saying is that everyone should consider all the information before they decide whether or not to support this idea. Throwing your hands up in the air and running down the street screaming like an extra in a Japanese horror film does nothing to aid the democratic process.

Douglas Sears

9:25 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Is artificial turf the way to go? This commentator says artificial turf fields cost from $500,000 to $2,000,000 and have a useful life of 5 to 10 years?
Grass fields have a 15 year life.

Read and compare. http://www.njwec.org/images/pdf%27s/fac ... alterf.pdf

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Jon Pratt

10:27 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

http://www.momsteam.com/health-safety/turf-wars-pros-and-cons-of-artificial-turf
http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/outdoors/synthetic_turf/crumb-rubber_infilled/fact_sheet.htm

Turf field are great but the environmental concerns are alarming as they are made from products that are known to create health issues that are not a concern in a natural field

Also no pesticides products are allowed to used on school grounds.

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billvill

11:03 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Rick,
I 'get it' and aren't quite sure why you feel the need to patronize, unless of course your motivation is to piss people off, but my post was full on sarcasm (with a little economics mixed in). Problem is, sarcasm deosn't translate well in this forum. The bottom line for me is, the FOTCAC is in need of operating cash, cash that isn't readily available. The town's people have spoken pretty clearly here, they aren't gonna pony it up. I would suggest they either drop it and accept the plan as currently drawn up or find another source of cash.

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Jon Pratt

11:36 am on Friday, February 10, 2012

Hey Rick we have a CPA bank thats funding a new town Hall - I hear they're awash in money and looking for good ideas.

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jo

4:41 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012

Would the high school football team use this new field? Right now they are on sacred turf. No one else gets to use Doucette Field. Who will determine what organizations get to use the proposed turf field? There are a lot of questions unanswered. I cannot go along with this group of individuals who are trying to push their agenda through.
I also sense that they knew their mission was going to be unsuccessful.
Also, the beer reference is insulting to the intelligence of the readers of this forum. The citizens of Tewksbury deserve more respect.

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Jim Wentworth

8:31 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012

Bill,

I really appreciate you providing this forum for me and my fellow residents to post comments and discuss Tewksbury Issues in a respectful and informative way.

Jim

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Bob Ferrari

12:23 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

There are continuing long running discussions on this issue here:

http://www.tewksburyissues.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9722&hilit=field+status
and here
http://www.tewksburyissues.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=10088

Adding four more cups of coffee to the already 100 cups of coffee a day for all the other "extras" the public is paying for is getting out of hand.....

Bob Ferrari
http://www.TewksburyIssues.org

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billvill

12:55 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Where's the facepalm emoticon when you need it?

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Dan O'Neill

7:21 pm on Saturday, February 11, 2012

My kid is in three sports right now...we pay for every one of them....by the way, he does not like turf fields....gets turf burn...also injuries can occur from the turf...I have read in the past that young kids are hurting knees, ankles etc because there is no give to the turf....nothing wrong with a good grass field & running track....just my opinion....

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meow

7:43 am on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Listen , the next time you go to N.H. for beer, can you pick me up some bottle rockets and cherry bombs? There's going to be lots of fireworks at the town meeting!!!!

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Gordon Pickguard

10:09 am on Sunday, February 12, 2012

Right Cathy. Rick Spencer will be driving us all to N.H. every month in his car for a beer run. We'll see how the economics of that work for him !

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