Mark, I couldn't say it better myself. I've seen many parents whose involvement in their kids' futures end when the kids step off the playing field/ice rink. Sports are fun. Rah Rah camaraderie and all that. I get it. What I don't get is that we have a large contingent of people who have been silent about poor performance in our schools and over-limit classroom sizes, but as soon as a sports topic comes up, they're out in droves, "rah-rah-ing" all the way.

Amen.

Amen times 2!

Amen times 3!

Melissa, TMHSGrad, Karyn, and Mary: You four posting again? We get it, you're against the proposal.

I am neither the pot nor the kettle. I am just trying to point out that the comments on this website are LOPSIDED because some posters comment constantly (and repetitively). This is my third and final post on the matter. While TMHSGRAD has posted only 7 times across the variety or articles and Letters of Opinion, others have posted far more: Mary leads with 25 posts, Karyn with 21, and Melissa with 19. Vote YES. 'Nuff said.

And yet you're still reading.

What does Tewksbury have "the best of" in the Merrimack Valley.......? Anything? Maybe we can have the best high school building and sports complex.....

Make it 20. ;-)

POST POLICE..... OMG!!!

The writer says "There will be no future for the children if the parents cannot afford to maintain a quality of life." So, if you support the athletic complex, you will kill the children of the town of Tewksbury. Ridiculous argument, but it's pretty indicative of the type of fear-mongering being bandied about by the trolls on these boards who make the same inane posts about how building a facility to help the town will lead to the financial collapse of not only Tewksbury, but the entire United States and possibly the world.

The fact that this collapse will be initiated by a 20 dollar increase in taxes, that a first-rate facility will bring in a money to the town, that having such a facility will keep students from seeking education elsewhere, not only fails to make an impression on these posters, but they refuse to even acknowledge that they are arguments worth debating.

If someone believes this is a bad idea, I completely respect that. There are two sides to any argument and I realize that not everyone has the same views of me. But the way that the anti-athletic complex protesters have gone about things has been abhorrent and frankly embarrassing.

And no, there's not a "post limit" but for God's sake, Melissa, why don’t you take a break from spewing vitriol against the athletic complex and focus on something positive. I’d hate to see you end up like this guy: http://www.theonion.com/articles/ten-years-of-life-dedicated-to-getting-municipal-p,1757/

abhorrent? Really? More than a poster who told a teenager that his opinion doesn't matter? More than the fact that people are accusing a teenager of being an imposter? More than the fact that our schools are, apparently, so bad that no one believes that a teenager can be articulate, interested or involved? Really?

The fact that you addressed me, means I will respond, thus adding to my post count. If another letter gets posted, I'll probably comment on that too, whether it be for or against. I read, and I respond. If someone replies to me, I respond. It's unfortunate that the rest of the world has to see it (even I acknowledge that I like to hear myself talk, when no one else wants to hear me), when it's meant for the person who addresses me, but oh well. That's life in the online forum.

Yeah go Melissa! If they have a problem with what we have to say, they shouldn't read it. Don't let them silence us!

I disagree with Marc’s letter but appreciate his opinion. It’s okay to disagree and debate. I need to correct him on the "turf" costing $2 million. The turf costs $400k and the fabric and drainage system under the field is $300K. Total $700k. Here is a link with good info regarding the project and many questions and answers from residents if people need clarification.

http://www.ftcac.org/uploads/ftcac_presentation_abutters_and_community_04_09_2102.pdf

His comment regarding “For the Children” starts at home, I agree it starts at home but it doesn't have to stop when they step out of the house or when they are at school away from mom and dad.

We have great teachers and coaches who are tremendous role models for our students. Every parent can reflect and pick out a few (or many) that have helped their child and family or themselves through their education years. There are role models at home and in the classroom or on the court/field.

This upgraded athletic facility along with our new 21 century high school, our commitment to technology, our recent investment in our teachers (yesterday’s contract vote); and our recent elementary facility community initiative can only help keep and attract those positive role models for our school district.

All of it can help bring more pride to Tewksbury.

When does it stop though???? We have a new high school, a new contract with the teachers with a 2% increase over a 3 year duration, and then potentially a new feild. Next year, and you can't deny this Brian, I'm sure that Dr. O'Connor will be asking parents for an overrride to rebuild our elementary schools. He already tried feeding that line to us parents last year when he did his elementary school tour. Enoungh is honestly enough. I can't work anymore than I can to support this town when I need to support my family by keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table. I appreciate your committees efforts, but cannot support them because they are not part of my priorities.

Yes ..and only a chosen few will be able to afford to live here !!! Why don't the people who want to vote "Yes" just donate their money and more seen as they can afford it. That way our taxes won't go up more and they get what they want. We do not need a "Gillette Stadium". Give the people of Tewksbury a break on their pocketbooks. If the companies in the area won't donate maybe that is telling you something.

After the Sun's article about high taxes in Tewksbury ,they seem to be questioning how a town with no money is being asked to support a "field of dreams sport complex" by a group of TMHS Sports alumnus who are selling it as better fields equate to happier students better grades for only an extra 1.9M
http://www.lowellsun.com/editorials/ci_20379668/tewksbury-re-elect-selectmen-planner

Brian:
Please share with the group the algorithm used to come up with $20 nominal tax rate. Please include ib your analysis the interest rates used, time value of money, projected tax rates and home values.

Last but not least, NO ON QUESTION #1!

Here are a few VOTES we the people of Tewksbury have already supported over the past 15+ years.

1) NEW Police station
2) NEW library
3) NEW South street fire station
4) NEW John Ryan School
5) NEW Town wide sewer system
6) NEW High School
7) NEW Addition/remodel the John Winn middle school
8) Approved Funds to update/remodel the Town Hall (Closed on Fridays)

We the people need a break!

Can someone please tell me when these funds get paid off, Will are taxes go down Like we were told?

At this time, I vote 'NO' to support the NEW Athletic fields, Ask us again once we pay off some of our old debt!

Please get out and vote tomorrow. If your for more of the same vote for the incumbent selectmen, if not vote for the 2 candidates who talk fiscal responsibility...To Lazy to vote, then you can't complain after the dust clears!!!

Considering at least the first 5 line items had nothing to do with the current board I think it is not fair to say our incumbents had anything to do with them and should not be held responsible for taking the heat of the the past boards. Also for those of you that watched the debate you would clearly see one candidate is not responsible at all since he fell asleep right in front of everyone at a very crowded town hall AND couldn't follow the questions. If he's tired during a BOS meeting will he fall asleep there too, oh sure, he's someone I want making sound decisions for Tewksbury. Responsible, give me a break!

P.S. Town hall is open on Friday mornings, I just checked the website.

Thank you,
Jim Bennett

Not sure why multiple posts by the same people offend others. Please keep in mind that if the FOTAC weren't asking the tax payers to foot the bill for all of these unnecessary upgrades the we wouldn't be posting at all. All of these "no" posts are in direct response to all of the "yes" voters. Please keep that in mind. Since nobody has answered my question on the other posts, I'll ask it again. Why don't the FOTAC raise the $$$ themselves? Sometimes in life when you want something bad enough you have to work hard and sacrifice and not rely on others to do your work or pay your bills.

$2,031,600 - 1,935,000 = 96k interest wow you can get .09% loan. The TM must be financial wizard. Could he refinance the whole town debt at .09%

Two "NO" votes here for a useless inflated Field of Dreams.. we dont need another tax increase... i grew up playing on half grass half rock and sand filled fields.. we won many titles and recieved many cuts but made me stronger mentally and physically...not like the pussification of our youth now..mostly due to all you HELICOPTER parents. This town has jammed more usueless tax increases down my throat since i bought here 3 yrs ago... yet i still have to take detours around a so called bridge that no one owns... and pray that my house catches fire during buisness hours...All you buffoons who think your almost mediocre children will be the next barry sanders or mia hamm need a slap in the mouth...when reality finally sets in we will still have an over taxed town with the same red bonet antiquated corpses running this sh*$ show

I find it comical/sad that so many people are complaining about a $2M sports complex, when Tewksbury has a $90M budget. Please keep it in perspective. The complex represents about 2% of that budget if paid off in one year, but we will pay it off over 10 yrs. I get the feeling that some folks are so angry over the other tax increases, they would not support the project if it were $50k.

Tewksbury's 2012 tax rate of $14.93/thousand is still reasonable when you compare across the state where some towns are over $19/thousand. Combine that with our lower property values, our total taxes are relatively low compared to area towns.

Keep in mind that for an avg house ($315K) the $552 increase for 2012, $258 was the result of the sewer debt shift and $146 was the result of the new high school, while ~ $147 was from a normal, year-to-year increase.

Please keep the numbers in perspective here:

Sewer debt shift - $258 ~ 30 yrs
High School costs - ~$146 ~ 20 yrs(? might be longer)
Sports Complex - only $20 for only 10 years!

Tomorrow is the BIG day!!! Please Vote YES on #1

A few facts in response to some comments above in relation to Tewksbury's 2012 Tax rate (per the Mass DOR website, updated an hour ago 4/13/2012)
1) Out of 351 cities & towns in Massachusetts, Tewksbury had the highest property tax increase in the state for 2012 of 13%. Lincoln also had a large increase of 10%.
2) After doing a local property tax analysis of the 40 surrounding towns/cities to Tewksbury, our town now has the 11th highest tax rate ($14.93/$1k) of these 40 towns/cities which almost puts the town in the top quartile which includes towns like Groton, Topsfield, Stow, Westford, Boxborough, and Littleton.
3) 342 of 353 towns/cities reporting in Mass, there are only 8 towns (or approx. 2% of towns in Mass) that have a tax rate of $19/$1k or greater with the closest being Amesbury at ($19.13). The others are Sharon $20.11, Springfield, $19.83, Longmeadow $19.68, Westborough $19.21, Greenfield $19.01, Pelham $19.14, & Shutesbury $19.56.....What's a Shutesbury? :o)

Yes Mr. Bennett....our taxes went up and when you break it down $20 doesn't seem like much over 10 years BUT......when is it time to say ENOUGH for now? Why do we need a glamorized athletic field? If the school came under what was budgeted can't we leave it at that & be happy? Do we have to spend every dime & then some ALL the time? Aren't we trying to dig ourselves out of the hole????? Like I said.....everyone who wants a "YES" vote...dig into your own pockets and show us the money!!! Then our taxes won't have to be raised to pay for Gillette Stadium #2

The towns of Reading, Lynnfield, Winchester, Andover, Middleton, North Andover, Marblehead, Georgetown, Newburyport, Ipswich, Groveland, Boxford, Essex, and Rowley to name a few now have a lower property tax rate than Tewksbury (2012 data).

I wonder when all this is said & done & our property values start to go up again how many families will start moving out of this town? We are not a "rich" town like some of you seem to think. We are a town with a high DEBT.

Vote YES on Question 1! Our property values are down, our children are migrating to private schools and our residents are leaving the area for "greener pastures" where they have the newer facilities that we are trying to implement. Do we think the way to solve these issues is to not invest in the future? That is abysmally short sighted. Property values are down in most parts of America due to the economy. To bring them back up; we as a town need to do our part to bring them there by investing in its infrastructure. A school system that can compete with what surrounding towns can offer is crucial to keeping local business and residents as well as drawing in new ones. The new high school's auditorium can be rented out to organizations for profit. The same can be said for the new sports complex if approved; thus bringing revenue into the town, not going out. Twenty dollars a year and with that the cost of the new high school coming in so much less than we voted on; honestly, what IS the problem. Yes, invest in our kids, and invest in our town. Please, vote Yes on Saturday to Question 1.

Our property values are down because of the economy like everyone else. Our residents are leaving because of high taxes & seem to be going higher and because they have lost their homes because of the cost and they are out of work. You can't tell me they are leaving because we don't have astro turf and lighting. Why would they leave with a beautiful NEW high school? Maybe because the elementary schools need to be looked at? Does all our neighboring towns have a Gillette Stadium to keep their kids there? Maybe families can survive in other towns because their taxes are lower? We HAVE invested in our kids & the Police & the Library & the Senior Citizens, the sewer system etc. Stop throwing the kids in our face. They have great teachers, great schools, and fields to play their sports. It's too bad kids don't take advandage of their beautiful Library & what knowledge it has to offer instead of the parents letting them spend hours on end texting, TV, internet, and video games! It's not the fault of some parents that they don't see what their kids are doing because they are working long hours to make ends meet to pay the bills, food, clothing, gas & yes TAXES. It's time to sit back & pay off some of our debt before we go on another shopping spree folks.

Why can't we pay off our debt first and then after that's done build the "super stadium"? Maybe by that time the FOTAC would have raised enough $$$ that they could pay for the upgrades without burdening the tax payers. What's the rush? If the FOTAC save up between now and then it shouldn't matter to us tax payers that it will cost more later FOTAC get off your lazy butts and raise the money if you want this so badly. Go house to house and collect donations, or throw some fundraisers. Sometimes you have to do some hard work to get what you want in life. This is one of those times.

This just in for those who think a no vote at the ballot will put an end to it....be aware: It could STILL go to Town Mtg. Mon. May 7th for passage with an amendment contingent on an ADDITIONAL ballot vote. For further explanation: Check out Mr. Rauseo's blog on the Patch and subsequent comments as well as:
http://tewksburyissues.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9722&start=165

What I find really comical about all of this is that we need this state of the art stadium in order "finish strong"? We should have already "finished strong" by voting in this new state of the art school? Also, it should not be the fact that we have this wonderful athletic field that draws families into Tewksbury or keeps a child from going to Shaw Tech or any other schools. It should be about the educational opportunities the school provides and the additional opportunities it will provide with the larger space. I would rather see any excess monies be alloted to the town departments rather than to a field. Also, the fact remains that according to Brian, there is a facilities study committee that's being formed to look at the other buildings here in town. To me that means more $$$$$$$$$$ in the upcoming years. I could not support this even if I wanted too. My childs education takes priority over a field that he will never step foot on.

Two NO votes from my household tomorrow on Question1. I simply don't have an extra $20 to spare.

Unfortunately today we live in a country/society that largely does not value fiscal discipline, balanced budgets, living within your means, running households without massive amounts of debt, nor saving money. Consumer debt is the most heavily marketed/advertised product/service in the US bar none. And as we know, Marketing/Advertising works! As a result debt has become the socioeconomic norm, to be leveraged beyond return individually and or as a family unit as we look at our federal government leading the way by example. How and why does Tewksbury have some $150 million in long term debt and Wilmington next door has ZERO and thus a residential tax rate 19% lower than Tewksbury’s and a Commercial Tax Rate 13% higher than ours? It’s fiscal discipline and fiscal priorities which takes self education, planning, hard work, buy in, vision, sacrifice, common business sense, and most of all strong leadership which Wilmington has had from the top in Mike Ciara. This sports facility project however is just another beaming example of a “make me feel good impulse purchase” while waiting in the checkout counter at Bloomingdales waiting to be paid with your last credit card that hasn't already been maxed out. All for a “Nice to Have” facility that will symbolically more than in actuality continue to cement Tewksbury’s past fiscal/operational legacy of spending beyond its means without a true master plan and a willingness to follow it

We have a part time fire station on the South side, I would rather my $20 went to keep it open full time. ( I know thats not possible right now)My families health and safety is more important than a super stadium,and it disturbs me that this Town has its fiscal prioritys out of whack. I am glad we live in America, where we can debate the merits of this question, but, at the end of the day....public safety should trump the super stadium. When we get ourselves better situated financially, I would be all for a super stadium, just not today.

To Brian Dick:

Thank you for responding to my question. I am sorry for the late re post I just returned from work.

You did not answer my question. I asked for specific interest rates used, time value of money, projected tax rates and home values.

The Friends are esteemed community leaders, business people and Attorneys. I am disappointed you used a snap shot in time (today’s current economic conditions). I would like to see a true trend analysis with a data time line of at least 5 years back and what assumptions you are using for the 10 years going forward.

The group is assuming in the algorithm nothing will change, however you did slide in at the end "this is what is currently planned but things can change when design begins".
“This is “Big Dig math” and am a bit insulted.

You may want to think about using the $50k raised with private donations to fund a feasibility study before asking your neighbors to come up with $2,000,000 on a plan that may change when design begins.

I should have posted this at the bottom, perhaps some of you did not see it - but you can't just compare rates. Based on the data, Wilmington had HIGHER tax bills over the past 10 yrs on average.

Please read my entry about Total Tax Bills rather than just rates. The actual rate is only half the story. You need the rate and assessed value for true totals. The BoS could lower our rate to $10/$1k, but it won't make a difference if they raise our assessed value proportionately.

Sorry to repeat some info:

PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT: I found an excellent article from Boston.com that compares tax bills across the Commonwealth. I am glad I found it because it was eye-opening. It makes me feel much better about where Tewksbury sits.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/graphics/08_22_10_property_tax/

It clearly shows that Tewksbury has been far BELOW the average over the past 10 years. (Be sure to use the sliding year feature) The map they used is fully interactive and allows you to see how nearly ALL Massachusetts cities and towns have had a significant jump in tax bills over the past 10 years. The towns Eric mentioned, with the exception of Littleton, pay WAY more in total tax bills than Tewksbury. This is quite an impressive website.

Based on this data, the only towns surrounding Tewksbury paying a lower average TOTAL bill are: Lowell, Dracut, Methuen and Lawrence. You have to travel outside of 495 for any tax relief.

Robert, you are correct, I simply provided that facts surrounding tax rates not tax burden. Have a great weekend.

In regards to the “Investment Argument”, an investment of capital or money is one which indefinitely yields a gain or profit either as interest, income, or appreciation in value. First it is impossible to predict future values of housing stock nor possible income generated from this facility. It will never be proved that this small athletic facility as it compares to other enormous town wide infrastructure (Sewer program)will equate into any value of what the next buyer is willing to shell out for your home. This infrastructure project will be a business risk like any other project and debt exemption not only to build and pay off, but to maintain and eventually replace. An investment in “Feeling Good?...An Investment in trying to do the Right Thing?....Positive Change? Change you can Believe In? :o).....perhaps. An Investment which will equate into a gain or profit either as income for the town or appreciation in housing values……nobody knows . To use public tax money in pushing forward this very divisive issue amongst the townpeople during a time in the towns history which has never seen these enormous amounts of long term debt within the larger challenging macro and microeconomic business climate, shows a continuity of poor planning and prioritization of townwide capital improvement projects and yet another reminder that marketing and advertising debt works not only on a personal level but on a Municipal Level too.

Hope is not a plan unless you run for President.

Wow...this is a heated debate! Yes...the "finish strong' slogan annoys me too! I will be out tomorrow...AND VOTING NO!!!

Two years ago, a record number of residents attended Town Meeting and voted at the subsequent Special Election to approve our new High School. For those of you who haven’t been able to see the progress, please visit: http://tewksbury.patch.com/articles/the-first-look-inside-the-new-tewksbury-high#photo-9509235. As you can see from those pictures, our residents have invested in an incredible science lab for our students and committed to the arts with exceptional auditorium facilities where we can host recitals and plays for our town. An area that was sacrificed because it wasn’t reimbursable by the state was the athletic facility.

A “YES” vote on Question 1 will put us on track toward enhancing the new TMHS athletic facility with:
· An electronic scoreboard
· Five tennis courts
· Artificial “Field Turf” field
· Increased seating capacity for our growing community
· Lighting that will allow for evening practices and games

I hope you see this as an investment in the future of our community and agree that these amenities at our new High School are worth the extra $20/year per household. We are respectfully asking that you please make your voice heard and vote “YES” on Question 1 this Saturday, April 14th.

Thank you very much for your continued support of Tewksbury, our students and our community!

Brian H. Dick
President – FTCAC

Lee Anne Petherbridge
Secretary – FTCAC

Paul Hibner
Treasurer – FTCAC

Now that the above e-mail has been posted, WHO gave the authority to the (at least two that I know of) elementary school PACS to use their PAC e-mail lists to send out this EXACT e-mail to parents town-wide? Is it not school policy to strictly forbid ANYTHING POLITICAL from being solicited in this way? It is my understanding that an "informational reminder to vote on election day in general" is o.k. but CERTAINLY not political propaganda such as what is posted above! This is WRONG and preys upon some parents with younger children who may not be all that aware of ALL the facts just to sway them to vote yes! It is a blatant misuse of PAC e-mail and whomever is responsible should be ashamed that this was allowed to happen in the first place. Hope parents are rightfully angered and it backfires.

Agree w/Marc above. There is no real PLAN here.The HS vote was done after years of work, a feasibility study and full schematics.FOTCAC's plan is not vetted or from an actual design firm. Granted they put in a lot of time outlining ideas and showing "supporting" data (much of it questionable on review). Yet no feasibility nor environmental impact study has been done. Time & money are needed to prepare the kind of plan that merits a request for taxpayer $ but FOTCAC wants the money first and says there is no time to wait. Their "updated" April 9 presentation states: "THIS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY PLANNED BUT THINGS CAN CHANGE WHEN DESIGN BEGINS." This 65 pg. doc is touted as the resource on which residents should rely for key data and answers. I read it all and found MANY of the following phrases: "WILL BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE..., WE HOPE THAT..., WE ARE LOOKING INTO, SHOULD BE..., WILL NEED TO..., THAT IS OUR INTENT." Found another telling quote: "FTCAC HAS LIMITED RESOURCES AND WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON PROMOTING THE PROJECT AND REDUCING COSTS-NOT THE ENGINEERING WORK THAT MUST BE DONE AND THEN APPROVED BY TOWN COMMITTEES." The FOTCAC proponents push the "only $20 for the children" slant while calling this a community center. Whether those $ are minimal or not to pay, asking anyone to support an undocumented nonspecific plan is ludicrous. To me, using PAC emails filled with the same "fluff" and manipulation is still more objectionable and against school policy as well.

I just cast my vote and was really disappointed where the Question was placed on the ballot. Dollars to donuts voters are not going to read the entire ballot and miss the question, which is incidentally at the very bottom of it. Maybe that is the purpose of its placement. Maybe they are hoping that the voters miss seeing the question. Another thing that disappoints me is that there is no signs (other than signs for candidates) on the south side of Tewksbury alerting the residents that there is an election today. There may be a sign near Town Hall, but that is probably the only one. How about informing the residents a little better about what is going on in this town. Also, bring back the Town Warrants (mailed out to residents), instead of spending money on things the Town does not need at the present time. I have to say, this is very disappointing!!!

The fact that the FOTAC was unable to raise even 3% of their goal from willing private donors/businesses really makes you wonder many of the people who are so FOR it and "the children!" would ACTUALLY give money out of their own pockets towards it, were it not FORCED upon them by taxes. Just saying.

Get out today and VOTE NO on 1, I just did!

If Question #1 passes, it should be thrown out. The PAC should not have been able to send out emails to the parents of the school children. And by the way, the $20 a year is so far off. Why don't they also tell them about what the up keep of the field is going to be. If you believe this, like someone else wrote, I can sell you a bridge on Whipple Road (that is not there). This should be investigated.

Did I miss it or was there no specific requested amount of money ($1.94 million) on the proposition 2.5 over-ride debt exempting ballot question today? I believe it read "........agree to exempt from Provisions Prop 2.5 so-called, the amounts required to pay for the bond issued in order to construct an all-purpose artificial turf field, concessions stand, bleachers, tennis coursts, & lighting @ TMHS, including the payment of all costs incidental (Definition: incurred casually & in addition to the regular or main amount) & related (Definition: to bring into or establish association, connection, or relation) there to." Perhaps an exact amount is/was not required, but did we just vote for or against the abilitiy to borrow funds for this capital project with no spending/borrowing limits? Whatever the case may be for the ballot side of the equation, I realize the article at town meeting (if it passes today) can certainly be ammended (to include an exact borrowing limit) and thus voted upon at town meeting. Perhaps some town leaders or folks with more expertise to the process and or familiarity with the exact wording of the ballot question could provide some clarification. Thanks.

Bill, there are plenty of seniors and other people that don't have computers, that know nothing about what is going on in this town. As an example, my neighbor, who incidentally owns a computer, thought the question on the ballot was going to be on the Town Council form of government. This woman is extremely bright, but it just shows how confused people are. Another observation I made was why wasn't the ballot published so that the voters could view it, print it, and make up their minds at their home, at their convenience before entering the polling places? This would have been a big help. Maybe they would have been able to read the question and understand what the Town is asking for.

Tewksbury2001, I myself read the paper, have the internet, watch the T.V. etc.and are up to date on current affairs. I am speaking for the elderly that only have to think about how they are going to pay their bills, pay their taxes, and feed themselves on a fixed incomes. Incidentally, I am also on a fixed income, but not that elderly yet. Things in this Town change so quickly and even I have a hard time
keeping up with what is going on. By the way, you will be here one day too. Have some pity on the people that are not as smart as you and I are.