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What's Going On With The House At East And Livingston?

A reader is curious about all the activity at the house located next to the East Street Farm Stand.

Question: What's going on with that house next to the ? There seems to be a lot of activity there lately. Who owns it?

Answer: The house in question is actually part of a much larger parcel of land at the junction of Livingston and East Streets (460 East St.), all of which is owned by the State of Massachusetts. This includes the land that the East Street Farm Stand and its fields sit on.

As for the house and the activity that the reader asked about, it has recently opened as Leroy's Lodge. It is a sober house group home for men, overseen by the State Department of Mental Health and is privately managed by a man with Tewksbury roots.

According to , Leroy's Lodge has a maximum capacity of 16-18 residents.

Comment July 17, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Jenn, have you ever heard the saying "a dog doesn't $#%@ where he sleeps". If they fall off the wagon, they won't be doing it near here. They know they won't let them in. (I'm not arguing or calling you out, just having a conversation).
Joe Bill July 17, 2012 at 06:32 PM
I am much more concerned with the State Hospital. There have been ecscapes from the hospital, including people who have been charged with violent crimes. In addition, there are drug addicts housed there who are also criminal offenders. In driving through there in error one day I saw them all out for a walk. I thought they were filming the next series of the Walking Dead.
Jenn July 17, 2012 at 06:40 PM
I have been trying to get on the website to read the rules. I haven't been able to get it to come up. Must be a lot of people looking it up. Comment: you are probably right about them going away from the area... Joe Bill: I am also much more concerned about the hospital than I was about this place. I think all parents in Tewksbury are more concerned about that. But since this article wasn't about that so I didn't want to bring it up and sound like I whine about everything in this town :)
Comment July 17, 2012 at 06:48 PM
I tried to cut and paste the rules, but the text box has a character limit. I can't guess why that website doesn't come up for you. :( As an aside, years ago, after there was an escapee from the hospital who was found down by the playground, I actually met with the then CEO (Sandy Akers). They, at that time, instituted policies where they would no longer accept that category of patients. She also confirmed that the level 3 sex offenders that live there are in their medical unit where they are basically terminally ill and will be departing in a body bag. I don't know how receptive the new CEO is to meeting with the community, but Ms. Akers was very welcoming to comments and questions.
Michael Adams July 17, 2012 at 09:09 PM
all convicted sex offenders should leave the Courtroom in a body bag. On a side note, the addictions treatment center has helped many, and unfortunately is a needed "thing" nowadays. You never know who has gone through the program up there, could be that nice person you met the other day....treatment works. There are good and bad in everything, lets hope all the "good ones" are being treated at Tewksbury....
Janellen27 July 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM
". . . and is privately managed by a man with Tewksbury roots." Come on, Bill. Why would you print the story and not disclose the name of this person? All that does is make me wonder who's protecting whom from what? If the answer is noone, noone, and nothing, then just write, ". . . and is privately managed by [e.g., John Doe], a man with Tewksbury roots."
Melissa Gleaton July 18, 2012 at 03:35 AM
maybe it's an anonymity thing like with AA? I've attended programs in buildings where AA has been held and we've been instructed to please not acknowledge anyone we may recognize during meeting times.
Bill Gilman (Editor) July 18, 2012 at 03:40 AM
Janellen ... in the information I was able to gather, I was not given the name of the manager. Chief Hazel referred to him as a man with Tewksbury roots. As this was not a story about the program but rather about what was going on with the building, I didn't feel it was essential to have the manager's name.
denise July 18, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Ahh...Janellen27...back again.
Bob July 18, 2012 at 12:27 PM
What does it matter who is managing it? The organization behind it has a track record and zero tolerance policy they uphold. They are trying to give these guys a second start without pampering them. They make them face their bad decisions and show them what the better choice would have been. Then they hold them accountable to that standard. Sounds like a winning combination to me! Good luck and God speed to all who pass through their doors! May you find a life of sobriety and free of the demons that have haunted you! BTW - It is a 501c3 non-profit organization. I am sure they can use our assistance in clothes (old suites for interviews etc.) and furniture to make it more like home. All tax deductible!
denise July 18, 2012 at 12:40 PM
i couldnt resist! lol... And on the topic...good luck to the men that stay there...alcoholism doesnt make you a pedofile...a place like this saved my nephews life in California. I wish them luck...one day at a time.
Sarah July 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM
You pick some weird stuff to gripe about...
Linda Rowe July 18, 2012 at 05:15 PM
I dont understand what the issue is... Is it because its Leroy's Lodge with MEN vs a Sally's house ?? Would it be different it this became the home of women ? I clicked on the link, and it looks like a great organization helping people who need it. How many level 2 sex offenders live at the state hospital ? How many people with mental illness live at the state hospital ? This property is not abandoned like so many others in this town...it is kept up..its shutters are not falling off...its grass is not over grown . Good luck to all who go through simple living's program !
Amy July 18, 2012 at 07:02 PM
I dont understand why everyone jump on the complain train when anything new comes into this town. Didnt this town start off as a community, dont we want our children to grow up helping people and not being judgemental towards others. Better yet, have any of you heard the expression "dont judge a book by its cover"? Why dont you give Leroy's Logde and the people that go there for help a chance.
malcolm nichols July 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Ahh yes we must be getting that special hotel tax we voted in, property taxes, did we collect our Sewer Connections fees (16-18 units). How about that streach code we voted in, clearly a change of use. Has the ADA reviewed for compliance. Hmmm, so much to think about.
Melissa Gleaton July 18, 2012 at 10:47 PM
I highly doubt there are 18 units in that old farm house... and i don't think it falls under "hotel" tax... Not sure what you're getting at. :-/
malcolm nichols July 19, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Melissa it is commentary on the benefit or detriment to our town. Is your property more valuable because of this amenity? Does it increase our towns value? Does it pay it's fair share of tax burden? ps the article indicates capacity 16-18 residence, and "lodge" and "hotel" are similar. Keep smiling :-)
Comment July 19, 2012 at 10:20 PM
I highly doubt it has any affect on property values, as this property is owned by the state and the hospital runs it. Whatever effect the state hospital has on the property values is the effect. If Leroy's House was across the street within the confines of what we see as the hospital campus, we probably wouldn't even have heard about it.
comment July 20, 2012 at 05:54 PM
This is probably part of the reason we see our crime increasing. People who struggle with these issues usual don't associate with law-abiding citizens and this is likely the reason drug dealers, house break-ins, etc are increasing in our community.
Comment July 20, 2012 at 06:59 PM
That's a bunch of crap. Crime is increasing due to the drug epidemic that is spreading into the suburbs from the cities - not from employed people seeking help for an alcohol problem. These housebreaks and bank robberies are people who are on heroin, crack, meth - whatever they have been stupid enough to try. Show us one article that says someone robbed a house or a bank for money for alcohol. I can show you about 50 about robberies occuring so drug addicts can get another fix. The Caswell didn't have trouble with people making moonshine... they had a meth lab.
Janellen27 July 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Denise & billvill: Back again, showing your true colors! Being small, as usual.
Janellen27 July 20, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Too bad you cannot keep your comments on topic instead of bullying other posters. Pack dog mentality.
Janellen27 July 20, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Bob: Why does it matter to you why it matters to me! And, that has nothing at all to do with the program, the quality of the program, the success rate of the program, or the tax deductible status of the program. Good luck with the program!
Janellen27 July 20, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Comment: You can copy & paste the rules in segments; no limit there.
Janellen27 July 20, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Sarah: How does your gripe contribute to the quality of the conversation. . .
Bob July 23, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Janellen27, instead of going 0-60 in a second, why don't you explain why you would post on a public site what you posted? You posted, again on a public site, that you think the manager is being protected. Why? Enlighten us. BTW - I am not in the program thank God! But you keep kicking about others lashing out against posters!
malcolm nichols July 23, 2012 at 07:52 PM
so who is the big "C" and who is the little "c".
Janellen27 July 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Let it go, Bob. Irrelevant. Focus on the topic. I asked, Bill explained, end of story. If you must persist, however, give me your E-mail address; I'll be glad to take the time to explain. No need to further distract the other posters from their discussion about the program.
comment July 24, 2012 at 05:47 PM
if you read the website for leroy's lodge it says helping those with addiction. It doesn't specify only alcohol addiction so this doesn't mean former drug addicts aren't living here.
Bill Gilman (Editor) July 25, 2012 at 01:09 AM
OK guys, lets please stay away from any types of personal attacks or insulting comments. I'm not singling anyone out I'm just saying that the debate can be had without pot shots being taken.

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