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UPDATED: Overnight Fire Damages Jade East Restaurant

Two-alarm blaze caused significant damage.

Updated: 2 p.m.

An early morning fire caused between $5,000-$10,000 damage to the Jade East Restaurant on Route 38.

The two-alarm fire broke out around 3:30 a.m. and was called in by someone at the according to Fire Chief Mike Hazel.

Firefighters arriving at the scene discovered flames coming through the roof at the front of the building.

A preliminary report filed by Fire Investigator Lt. Scott Keddie indicates the fire appears to have started as the result of an electrical problem in the ornamental facade over the front door entrance, said Hazel.

Firefighters had the blaze knocked down in about a half-hour by crews from the Central. North and South Stations. Damage was confined to the facade and the roof of the building, according to Hazel.

No injuries were reported.

Jade East is open for business today.

 

 
Richard Menard February 22, 2013 at 09:09 PM
Southie, that is exactly my point. Stop going outside for the work and combine them with the schools...sorry if I didn't articulate that point better. Without being privy to the numbers at this point it is tough to know what we have been outsourcing. My second point is from my resident point of view...certain aspects of union jobs are done by civilians or contractors all the time. PD/FD use civilian dispatchers and private contractors are pulled in for snow removal. If it saves money, keeps my taxes stable, and provides our services to remain at acceptable levels then we should explore it. These are days when difficult decisions need to be made, not just level funding each budget line.
Richard Menard February 22, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Also, Southie, unless I was misinformed by the fire department's open letter, didn't the DPW get that funding after town meeting from the town manager? The letter is on patch in the archives and also in print in this weeks crier, page 4, paragraph 3.
UrAleg11H February 22, 2013 at 09:46 PM
Maybe he was the best qualified for the job, so are you saying that anyone who retires can't decided to work another job because it is someone else's. So a retired Marine, Navy, Army, Air Force, or Coast Guard can't take a job in the private sector because it belongs to someone else.
southie February 22, 2013 at 10:20 PM
There were unusual circumstances that happened that allowed the DPW to get some of the money back (check into it). There is no facilities div. because the jobs were cut to save money. Mybe in the town where you work they use civilians not in Tewksbury. good luck
Richard Menard February 22, 2013 at 10:48 PM
southie, thank you for the insight and well wishes, in a field this big I'm gonna need some luck. I do know that Tewksbury uses civilian dispatchers, I'm taking the test to be on the reserve list next week. I did also see private contractor for almost $400k in the fy11 expended budget snow/ice but that vehicle must not come with a driver, my mistake if that's the case.
Alex Ro February 23, 2013 at 12:48 AM
OMGI looked at the 2011 report and the amount of money in overtime is nuts. And the pay of the town manager ....didnt know it was that high for his salary. The amount the fire fighters and police officers made is a lot. Mr. M if you cannot live on your salary and your overtime and its what our guys get 90,000 + then you better take a finance course before you become a selectman.
Dave February 23, 2013 at 01:07 AM
Alex the average firefighter did not make 90 grand, not even close. Look again it is in the 60's and a few in the 70's for a firefighter. Some senior officers might see over 80 grand but not a firefighter. And let's not forget it is overtime that makes their salaries what they are. Without that they are mid fifties to mid sixties employees. For a firefighter to make 70 grand they have to work a couple thousand hours of OT. It is not given to them, it is more time at work away from their families. Since when is 65 to 70 grand a lot of money?
Dave February 23, 2013 at 01:22 AM
You know what, I also find what the town manager makes to be offensive, 163K. He makes 100 thousand dollars more than your average town worker. I can see him being the highest paid but 100k more, that is ridiculous.
Michael Adams February 23, 2013 at 02:54 AM
That is obscene! Who decides what his salary is? I would assume he is in a contract with the Town, is it the selectmen who decide? Or does it go before TM? For that kinda dough, he ought to live in town amongst his own, so he can at least feel our pain when the tax bill and water bill show up.
Dave February 23, 2013 at 03:17 AM
He should have to live in south Tewksbury without a fire truck come this July. We pay for his nice living and he is deciding that our safety is not a priority to him. He gets his, and the residents and firefighters have to fight this fight. Amazing! I would work 100 hours a week for a salary like that.
Lol February 23, 2013 at 01:11 PM
Requirements to become a Fire Fighter: Most Fire Departments require that you are at least 18 years of age by the closing date of the recruitment period. Required is a HSD or GED. http://www.firecareerassist.com/html/firefighter_qualifications.htm Requirements to become a Town Manager: Due to the vast amount of responsibilities of this position, you will usually need extensive experience in municipal management to become a town manager. bachelor's or master’s degree in a related field which may include political science, business management, or public administration. http://www.wisegeek.net/how-do-i-become-a-town-manager.htm
Dave February 23, 2013 at 02:00 PM
A lot more to becoming a firefighter than that. 3 months at the fire academy, 4-6 months of medical training, hazmat certifications, continuous training for their entire career. Entry requirements are just the beginning. They are the basic requirements to start the process, that is it. Just because a person meets the age requirement and has a high school diploma does not mean they have a job. Most firefighters have degrees in fire science, fire administration, or public administration. Especially officers or future officers. This is not the fire service of the 60's and 70's. Like all services it has evolved. I think a rookie firefighter who is in life and death situations very quickly in their career has a bit of responsibility as well.
Dave February 23, 2013 at 02:44 PM
So basically the entry requirements for a firefighter and town manager are the same. You have to be 18 with a high school diploma or GED to get into most colleges and start your path towards being a town manager. You have to be 18 with a hs diploma or GED to start your path towards being a firefighter. After the entry requirements that is where the training is vastly different. I think every career starts at 18 with a hs diploma or GED.
Richard Menard February 23, 2013 at 07:34 PM
Hi Alex, I think you are slightly clouded on where I stand on this issue, so please allow me to clarify. 1) I am not saying the TFD members need a raise or need more OT, I am saying that if elected I would seek to find the most FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY TO KEEP THE STATION OPEN. If that means hiring more, then be it. If it means fund OT then so be it. The contract negotiations that happen with the Collective Bargining Units are not for the Selectman to decide. 2) When you ask about my personal finance I will be more than candid, it is a matter of public record if you want to know. I take home $682.37 per week for a family of 5. My taxable income is about $56k per year. Take away my mortgage and taxes @ $1600 per month, car insurance $380 per month (teenage driver), electric, phone, cable, internet, heat, food, clothing, water and sewer (ouch), student loans, credit cards, etc...you now the list. I do not budget for OT, that is irresponsible because it's not in my contract. If it comes, that's great..a little more to drop in my 403b for life after FD. I expect to die 10 years on average sooner than most males because thats what the stats say, but am planning on my wife living longer so I put away any extra I can. I have to make tough choices, including having my wife work, so we can afford to live in Tewksbury. I expect to have that same attitude if elected, PRIORITIZE SPENDING and make TOUGH CHOICES, not level fund every year cutting essential services.
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 08:05 PM
Mr. Menard, with all due respect. The 10 year thing has been de-bunked many times over. Sure there can be dangers, dangers in many jobs, but lets be honest and factual please. Modern Firefighting has it's risks and rewards but it's actually a very safe way to earn a living in the modern era. Thank You http://davisvanguard.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2977:calpers-debunks-myth-of-shorter-life-expectancy-for-safety-employees&Itemid=79
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 08:10 PM
And no one is demeaning the Firefighter position, I'm certainly not, but sometimes the hyperbole goes on to a point where the actual point of the discussion becomes completely lost. Thank you again. Who Me? A well informed malcontent
Dave February 23, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Huh! That is funny, a safe way to make a living. that comment takes the prize for most uninformed of the entire topic. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't read it myself. I am actually laughing as I write this that someone would actually put firefighting in the safe category for careers. From heart attacks to back injuries, exposure to blood borne diseases and other sickness, it will never be a safe way to make a living. You even said "very safe way to earn a living". I agree that the job is safer due to technology but it is like saying being in the infantry is safe because we use drones and pin point missiles from far away. Some tasks will always be tedious and dangerous no matter what.
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 08:21 PM
Exhibit A
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 08:30 PM
I will assume you are a Firefighter Dave and I wish you a good and safe career, I really do. Here's what I don't get, I have 3 Nurses in my family. Nursing is a tough job. High rates of back injuries, exposure to every kind of bio hazard you can think of, night shifts, weekends, holidays etc. I never hear em complaining about any of it. I just don't get the rabid hyperbole regarding Firefighting and how it relates to other occupations.
Dave February 23, 2013 at 09:02 PM
Nurses are awesome and they do a great and difficult job. Most nurses never lift a patient, they have techs and nurses assistants for that. Nurses are exposed to bio hazards like firefighters but they do it in a controlled environment not a ratty hotel room or moving ambulance. Every nurse I know makes at least 30 dollars and hour and some as much as 50 and hour. They have a night and weekend pay differential and time and a half for holidays. All my nurse friends make 80k plus a year, every year. They have a pretty good job. I did not read anyone here comparing professions. Several people were defending the job of a firefighter from the scrutiny of others, that's all. As far as firefighting not making the list of most dangerous jobs anymore, that is because they do not have a fire every time they go to work. If they did it would be the most dangerous job. A miner enters a mine everyday so his job is more dangerous day to day. Going into a burning building is just as dangerous, probably more, but it just happens so much less(thank god).
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 09:13 PM
I won't demean anyone's job Dave. And I won't demean Firefighting as well, no should I. It's an honorable way to make a living. Surly you will agree that a simple story regarding a roof fire at the Jade, collapsed into a bit of silliness and over the top hyperbole, and I can never figure that out. Now I give what I get but for the most part I try to be respectful if someone is respectful to me. Enjoy your evening. Who Me? Sometimes not an unreasonable malcontent
Dave February 23, 2013 at 09:21 PM
Well I think the main point was just that any fire in town with limited resources available can leave the rest of the town in a bad way. Being down one third of an already small fire dept is a big deal when the south station is closed. Difficult topic to say the least, but necessary. Enjoy the rest of your weekend as well.
Richard Menard February 23, 2013 at 09:27 PM
Who Me? I'm sure that you will be able to find data relating to this matter on both sides of the coin. The Massachusetts Fire Academy is where I first learned of this statistic and know that there are some variables because of the 343 FF's that died on September 11th. I don't know where "calIPERS" or David Greenwald got his information, however the link to this government page from Labor and Statistics, though not showing the actually 10 years, does depict the death rate, putting Firefighters at 11th in the country. Not sure what you do for a living you haven't devulged it to my knowledge, but I feel that I need to prepare for the worst because my chances are higher than almost every other occupation there is. I'm not saying that I didn't sign up for the risks, just a little upset when people question the validity and my HONESTY! There is another report I am researching that will depict the 10 year number, I will post it to your board as it is way off the current topic. I will also get you information on how to contribute to the Jon Davies and James Rice funds to help their families since they perished in this "very safe way to earn a living" while I'm there.
Who Me? February 23, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Thanks Mr. Menard. I actually would make a donation. I make many. The bulk of my donations currently goes to Military Families who have lost family members who were serving in the armed forces. Military Friends gets a share as well. You don't need to attempt to shame me into anything and your petty BS is not needed. By all means post the link and it will be done.
Richard Menard February 23, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Who me, links have been posted. Please know that I was not attempting to shame anyone into anything, I am far from a bully. I felt that I was being attacked when you said, "let's be honesty and factual" as I strive for both of those things on a daily basis. I also wanted to point out, as a firefighter, that this is far from a "very safe way to earn a living" having attending funerals for FF's who have died in collapses, flashovers, heart attacks, and withered away from cancer. Questioning my integrity is what prompted my reaction...call it petty bs if you wish. On behalf of the Veterans in my family and the ones here on the job...thank you for your donations. Hometown Heroes is an organization we really help as well. One "Jake" has an annual drive every year at his home, I encourage anyone willing to help to contact Vinnie at the VFW post 8164 (978) 658-8983 to see what they need. Great guys that I had the honor to speak to in my campaign travels.
Richard Menard February 23, 2013 at 10:35 PM
meant local heroes, not hometown. Louis Cimaglia in Wilmington runs it...mass-localheroes.org. Not meant for just you, "who me?", just general info for those reading the threads...
Lol February 24, 2013 at 02:33 AM
Geez Dave You think it is too dangerous and not enough pay. QUIT. Go find some other job that will pay 70 K to someone with a GED. Stop begging for crying out loud.
Dave February 24, 2013 at 03:25 AM
Stupid comment, you are ridiculous and I'm sure you are a spineless little puke. No one is begging. Also did I say it was TOO dangerous? You are an instigator and that it is. Your goal is to get a rise out of people. Grow up! Maybe the station will close and you can celebrate. My life will go on, I'll sleep fine at night because I was one who tried to make a difference. I am done here, this forum is in the gutter because of people like you who change the subject and offer nothing positive. "Quit" and "stop begging" you say. Real nice, great support system for our public servants.
Cecil Moore February 24, 2013 at 03:14 PM
This is not a personal issue to me. To phrase it in sporting terms, I don't have a dog in this fight. However, those who have commented on this issue seem to have a vested interest. There are obviously firemen who have a vested interest and those who feel they don't deserve what they earn. I don't have this information but I have to ask, are Tewksbury firefighters overpaid for the market? That is what others commenting here lead me to believe. What do the surrounding towns earn? That is where the benchmark lies. Yes, everyone get upset when others earn more than they do. However, each profession, each job category, and geographical locations determine what the market bears. I would love to earn Tiger Woods money. How about David Ortiz, George Clooney, or JayZ. My golf swing slices, cannot hit a curve ball, can't act, and certainty cannot sing. Those people can and they get paid accordingly. All those who have commented negatively had the opportunity to become one and you chose not to. If they are overpaid in comparison to surrounding towns, they don't give them a raise in these times. If they are underpaid, then give them a raise. I understand this issue is about the South Fire Station. But to blame the fire fighters for being greedy seems short sided to me. I have nothing but gratitude for out public safety people. I CHOSE not to become one in their profession. I would hardly be in a position to criticize those who did. God Bless
Dave February 24, 2013 at 03:53 PM
Cecil I will try and get some hard numbers to compare, but I do know that based on base salary, Tewksbury has always been behind most surrounding communities.

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