Live Blog: Lunch With ... Shawsheen Tech School Committee Member Peter Downing

Incumbent John Peter Downing is up for re-election at the April 14 Municipal Election.

Welcome to our latest edition of Lunch With ...

Our guest today is incumbent Shawsheen Tech School Committee member John Peter Downing.

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paul jackson April 10, 2012 at 09:18 PM
Jon, I am having a little trouble following your line of thought.
Dan B. Cooper April 11, 2012 at 09:43 AM
Sean, You assumed. Did you ever think I wasn't involved with the TSC since day one. The birth of Tewksbury. Maybe you should have given date, close to the time a request was made. Maybe, just maybe I'm not a "townie." Yes people move into town. So a meeting took place. What did you learn? And wasn't it easy to find the /a rep from ST, to hopefully get an answer to your question? If you were able to communicate with a ST rep. Makes me think Mikey NEVER tried. And you don't like my style. I don't care. But I did get you to do what you didn't want to do, and what Mikey hasn't done. Contact a ST rep and ask your questions. Do you finally get it? If not, I can't help you.
Dan B. Cooper April 11, 2012 at 09:58 AM
Simon, Information from 25 years ago. Did you find that on Google also?
Dan B. Cooper April 11, 2012 at 11:46 AM
For those who don't know what the information is / was. It had to be pulled by the Patch because it was so hurtful and personal.
mary gail downing April 11, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Bill, Simon has made another inappropriate comment dated today, April 11th. You have warned him about the content of his comments. Could you please remove him from the blog? I don't think it should be closed. Peter is trying to answer questions and comments and it is very frustrating when he is the only one using his own name and constantly getting attacked by Simon. I can not wait until this filthy election is over.
Bill Gilman (Editor) April 11, 2012 at 04:14 PM
Mary Gail, I removed the comment but I'm not banning him. This election has clearly been emotional for all involved and there have been personal attacks against both candidates, which is unfortunate.
sandy b April 11, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Why is this race so important? There is no stipend, insurance or benefit to retirement. Why is Mr. Kelley fighting so hard for this position? Why didn't he just stay on the Tewksbury School Committee and see through his original committment. I just don't get it.
Bill Gilman (Editor) April 11, 2012 at 05:31 PM
I need to clarify one issue that has been tossed around on this stream. The issue regarding the School Committee firing the teachers and then hiring them back is not presently in litigation. According to Superintendent of Schools John O'Connor, that issue was settled and closed last year.
Simon Cowell April 11, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Bill, Let me try a different tact. From the "Downing-We must be doing something right thread", dated 3/30/12, posted by Dan B. Cooper: "And the last question is, does Mike have kids? And are they in public or private school? Because private schools just don't take anyone." Bill and Mrs. Downing, is this type of comment and insinuation okay with you? Dan B. Cooper took us down this road. The comment is still in the thread unedited. I dont think thats fair. Also, I have not attacked Mr. Downing once. I have taken issue with Dan B. Cooper because of the caustic, demeaning and even untruthful content of his/her posts. The source of the drama is Dan B. Cooper and I would suggest if you want to ban anyone, he/she would be the one to start with. Its an election. Not all races are unopposed. Not all appointments are for life. The problem some people have is that Mike decided to run, he is a good candidate and a lot of people appreciate his work and will suppport him on Saturday. Too bad.
Sean Czarniecki April 12, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Thanks, Bill - I was just getting more details on that myself today. I'm a bit surprised that there wasn't more fanfare associated with it at that time, but it is what it is.
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 09:06 AM
The question I keep asking this "Simon" fellow is what is the wrong information I have posted about Mike Kelly? Has he ever gone to a STSC meeting? Does he support the Alumni assoc? Was he involved in the contract issue? Why hasn't Mike come out and answered any of my questions on line? Mike wants information posted on line. Here is his chance. Thanks Bill. I have been trying to find out where the issue stood. I remember hearing about the contract issue at the start, but then it went away. I wonder what the out come was?
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 09:48 AM
Simon, Bill did not ask that I be banned. Mrs. Downing asked that you be banned after what appeared to be a comment that shouldn't have been posted. If Mike wants to run for STSC, it is his right. That's one of the great things about this country. But questions will be asked of him. His background. (I still don't know anything about him. Mr. Downing gave us his background.) He will be asked about his track record when he was on the TSC. (I would like to know about the outcome of the contract issue. Did it cost the town money? On top of the legal fees. He was involved in this issue. I have seen his image in picture, in the stories article.) I wonder what Sean learned when he called Mr. Downing about a meeting that DID take place between ST and the TSC? I still need to go back to the link you posted, but someone posted it took a year for the TSC to ask for meeting. A year?! What took them so long to ask for this meeting? Why is Tewksbury the only sending town complaining about ST? Every town would like to have more money. You, Simon, stated that it is not a life appointment. Well, Mike isn't owed the position either. Mike has gone missing on the "blogs."
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 10:10 AM
I went back and did some reading of the posts for this lunch. The link "Simon" posted was to the Wilmington paper. The story is no longer on line. April 1st, "Sandy" posted 700 children left the school system of Tewksbury. 700! Why? They didn't all end up at ST. Or did they? If this number is true, did anyone on the current or former TSC ask any questions? Fact is, Mike was one of those members. Money follows the kids. So, the money left. One last question. What is the "true" budget for the Tewksbury school system? The number that has been put out, does that include the services the town does for the school? Health insurance. Property insurance. Payroll and personal.
Simon Cowell April 12, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Darnit Dan, I tried to get here before your school day started. I am sure you were trying to find out where the issues stood. You have been grandstanding here about litigation, court and legal fees the town would be on the hook for. Everyone please look at some of Dan's earlier posts in the thread. Stating like it was fact. Misleading. Wrong. Lies. Dan, when will the info come out on the imaginary student that Mike tried to get into Shawsheen? More lies. Youre desperate and it is sad to read. The election will settle all.
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Temper temper Simon. You have popped off three times so far. You don't help your run for the STSC. Did you google the information from 25 years ago? If you know so much, what was the out come? Thanks for the compliment.
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Simon, Have you looked at other websites / pages? Other people are writing about you / Mike. Asking the same questions I've been asking.
Simon Cowell April 12, 2012 at 02:14 PM
LOL - I am not Mike.
Suzie B April 12, 2012 at 02:45 PM
It seems to me that the only person "attacking" anyone here is Dan B Cooper, he's certainly spent an inordinate amount of time trying to "hijack" Mr. Kelley's campaign. D B Cooper was the first to bring candidate's children into question, D B Cooper is the ONLY person to insult a candidate's other family members and friends, everyone else has used "Mr. Downing" and "Mr. Kelley" or Peter and Mike, D B Cooper uses "Mr. Downing" and "Mikey" If anyone has made this campaign sound "filthy" it's been D B Cooper. If I were running the campaign of Mr. Downing, I'd be asking my "friend" to stop posting in such a way as I think it reflects poorly on Mr. Downing. I don't understand why D B Cooper still doesn't know where Mr. Kelley stands. I do... I heard first hand at candidate night, I asked the questions that I had and got the answers I needed, I read through his own blog lunch, I've read the various articles in the newspapers, I also checked the link to his ad here on the Patch, it seems pretty clear to me where he stands. His contact information is also out there, and has always been. D B Cooper has been like a dog with a bone about why Mr. Kelley didn't call the STSC members instead of the town clerks about the minutes of previous ST meetings, I have to wonder, why doesn't Mr. Cooper take his own advice and give Mr. Kelley a call himself and ask his questions?
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 02:47 PM
So, if I read Simon / Mike correctly. The teachers of Tewksbury just went along with the master plan? Then why was the issue settled and closed last year?
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 02:49 PM
I wasn't at the candidate night. I have to work for a living. Sewer is going up 8%.
Simon Cowell April 12, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Just in, Mike Kelley has been endorsed by the Lowell Sun!
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Shocker!!! Maybe they could uncover what the outcome of the the contract issue. And if Mr. Downing is required to go to the Tewksbury town meetings.
Dan B. Cooper April 12, 2012 at 06:23 PM
Has their circulation dropped in the last few years?
Dan B. Cooper April 13, 2012 at 05:58 PM
Well it's offical. The Lowell Sun is in the tank for Mike Kelly. Don't bother posting anything other then good news in favor of Mike. They won't post it.
Dan B. Cooper April 13, 2012 at 06:00 PM
It also looks like it wasn't ruled in the towns favor. Or Simon would be hammering the facts.
Simon Cowell April 13, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Maybe your candidate didnt buy enough advertising. No never mind, my candidate didnt buy any advertising and they still picked him.
Dan B. Cooper April 13, 2012 at 11:41 PM
Or Steady Hand Daddy Jay paid them off. Where are all your facts about my lies and mis leading statements, Simon? Remember, when you respond watch your temper. Information from 25 years ago. You never explained yourself. But then again, I didn't expect much from someone that can't debate facts. Maybe I'll look at the past few town budgets and find out what Mike's master plan cost the town.
Dan B. Cooper April 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Simon, I would like to thank you for your posts. The election is Saturday and I hope everyone goes out and votes. Why I thank you Simon. You should me two things. The first is that you and the Mike supporters don't know the facts. I just hope the people see that Mike is not the best person for the job. And the second thing I would like to thank you for, is that you are questioning Mike. Go back and read your posts. It's been fun kids.
Dan B. Cooper April 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM
One last question Simon. How many people even get the Lowell Sun anymore? What is the circulation of that paper? I looked at it once and it was more car ads the news.
Simon Cowell April 14, 2012 at 03:12 AM
Wow, you are officially off the reservation. Steady crazy. Facts is facts, and the fact is your 15 minutes are up. Sack time, big day tomorrow. Big day!


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